Messages 24,425. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. 2008 affinity Pw29 bridge Fender locking tuners Wilkinson singles Aftermarket bridge unknown brand 19k hot Roller trees Skinny affinity body narrow nut chicken headstock 08 fartcaster hss black headstock Skinny affinity. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. The fretboard overhang is very rarely completely flush to the body, to allow for some minor neck pocket depth variance and adjustment. 5" scale. 10. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. May 29, 2016 #6. Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. Rear Natural Clear body. org Regular. . What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. A G&L neck fills the entire neck pocket. Continue the pattern up and down the fretboard, naming each chord as you play it, and do the same with an E chord,. This meant a complete redesign of the fretboard dimensions to allow for the proper Fretboard Overhang (distance. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. It didn’t take much to fix it. Fretboard Radius: 12” Tuners: 2+2 Sperzel Locking. On the Tele installation was very easy. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. 35mm (0. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. Fat Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. Only bodies and necks from. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. Ontario County. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. 25. 069 and at bridge is 2. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. Search titles only. A pickguard is . Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). 25in) solid. 175 mm). Guitars: electric, acoustic; accessories; and other musical instruments. It is a USACG Mustang neck. On another note, you actually could use a 21 fret neck with the 720 mod and a pickguard as there's no fretboard overhang to cause problems with the pickguard. Photo 4. I've also already done a trussrod slot with. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. My guard's tort, so it might be a little thicker than a clear one, but I could gig mine w/o screws in it for sure. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. It is usually a thin, flat piece of wood or metal and is often elevated from. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. Jun 13, 2020 #18 Slot and drill/install fret markers Radius sand taper (sometimes I taper first)The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home There are no sharp fret ends, and the volume and tone knobs have a smooth, noise-free—if somewhat limited—taper throughout their ranges. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. You don't need to pine for the el-cheap-o bass you had as a kid to find a narrower neck. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. 25,683. Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. All kinds of materials are used for this. The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Are you talking about the gap under the fretboard overhang? It’s where the pickguard (that you don’t have here) goes. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . 75". 5-3mmEnter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter. Remove the tape layers from the 5th fret. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. Thing is, this neck with it's extra fret doesn't have a fretboard overhang, the heel is deeper. Good to know. If a lot of wood has to go to make the scale length right, or to make a neat edge- saw the neck horizontally below the binding, creating a fretboard overhang. Although the neck has its final shape, the fretboard is slightly overhanging. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. 35mm (0. Back in the day Fender did use a 5/8″ deep neck pocket but they don’t. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter. Perhaps I am unique but I consider easy access to electronics on my Strat a necessity. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. Messages. Ive heard others mention usa necks. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. " Might need to adjust the heel area of the neck or neck pocket, too. . 7mm) gap between the pickup ring and the end of. Download Article. janeray1940 Active member. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Also vintage tinted pup covers and volume and tone knobs, string trees and misc screws! Keeping the original pups for the. Hey folks, new guy here. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Nov 14, 2018 #6 I've done a number of conversion necks with zero issues. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. From what I know there are 21 and 22 fret Strat necks. I can't tell if the new neck is the "overhang" type where the fretboard overhangs the end of the heel, that would explain the difference. 00. Feb 1, 2019 #5. #2. Dec 25, 2015 #5. Many say the old neck joint sounds better, including Mr. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. 080 gap between the pickguard and the underside of the fretboard overhang. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. The fretboard overhang sits above the body, but the gap is only . Mildew Jones. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. Nut:Hi all, Need some help please. If they do, then the Pro probably just has a shorter fretboard. So, that gives you . 105”) Heel Pocket: Fender Style (5/8” deep, 2. . Platinum Blonde. Sign In. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. Mar 25, 2017. They give you a "firmer grip" on the notes, if you get what I. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. The Warmoth site says the 7/8 body will only work with the 7/8 warhead neck. to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. Display results as threadsHey, I am the (mostly) happy new owner of a beautiful '97 Std Ren 4 fretless. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. For these particular cigar box guitar plans I used maple and black walnut for the neck, headstock, fretboard and fretboard markers as well as the bridge. 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. 625" to . #1 I'm planning on ordering a 24. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. I designed it to fit a Warmoth 24-3/4" scale conversion tiltback neck so that it should leave a minimal fretboard overhang on the body, and sufficient neck angle to meet an ABR-1 bridge. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. . If it is a Tele just put it where the 22nd fret would go in a strat. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. prorecordingworkshop wrote:. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. (in fact it's the same on a strat, the pickguard extends there as well, so the 22nd fret alos overhangs on the pickguard as well. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaFirst of all. May 18, 2016. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. 83" at the first fret , . Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. There also are rippled areas along the fretboard edges where they meet the top, on my single-cut and double-cut guitars as well. The 21 fret option is standard on 32" Short Scale bass necks. Joined Sep 19, 2016 Messages 627 Reaction score 538. Should I try to duplicate this, or is it OK to just keep the neck solid all the way to the neck pocket? If I need to keep the overhang, does anyone know what the. Since this part of the bass guitar will see a lot of wear, harder woods are used. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the overhang, and. 1,313. If you get a 22 fret neck, I believe the fretboard overhang obscures the gaps, even without the scratchplate (or pickguard as we say over here in 'Murrica). Avoid spot heating in just one place. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. . Back in the day of 21 fret necks there was no overhang. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". I've been to Warmoth's site. $69. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersThey just add more frets on the top making the fretboard longer (though the distance from the bridge to the nut remains the same) - the spacing between the frets remains the same for a given scale length - that's why they have warnings about those 24 fret necks - they overhang the body considerably, and often run into trouble, running out. #4. The fretboard overhang on the neck will cover the gap that the neck leaves. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. I can see that the standard 25. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. This was an extra $110 for the ebony and squared fretboard. Compatibility Issues. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Nov 30, 2005 Southern Ontario. Stu Mac sells a fancy jig for this, but I just hold the file. Yours looks similar, but hard to tell. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. . I'm pretty sure the majority of strats don't have this, my MIM strat's board is flush with the rest of neck pocket. Two of the photos show the Wilkinson compensated brass. number of strings = 4. 2-1/4" (squared) heel, 3/16" fretboard overhang, 1" from heel bottom to fretboard. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . 095" so it's not like there's a gaping maw sitting there screaming for attention. Ontario County. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. Normally the heel is the same (rounded, with the 22nd fret hanging over). Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. To maintain comfortable playability, it’s advisable to select a replacement neck with a fretboard radius that matches the original neck or is compatible with your playing style. Crypto1. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . 4 string necks: Warmoth 21-fret necks (with fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for standard 20-fret bass. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. 720". Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. The fretboard I got from Stew Mac and I have a second board in house so redoing it with a new, flat board is no problem. The 550 has a much larger contact area at the neck to body joint, even more so than the originals because there's no fretboard overhang -- it's built like the AANJ neck -- solid right to the end. frank falbo SS. or could just be the. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. Compatibility Issues. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. You could also have a bit of fretboard overhang to hide the repair you will do. In theory both should work but unless you really want 22 frets I'd look for a neck with a regular neck heel, not the overhang. Specs: Model: A2. 070”, 0. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. The top of the guitar under the fretboard overhang was sunk in a lot too, so I made a bolster from a dowel and glued that in. My plan is to use a 25. I use thin 0,5mm wood. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Keep thinning it down untill your happy with the thickness. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Feb 1, 2019 #5. . . The neck will act as a. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Based on 24 frets and the fretboard overhang I am leaning heavily toward an earlier Dean Edge 1 that has been modified with a three way switch instead of V/V/T. 83" at the first fret , . they don't. 5mm at the zero fret. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. I. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. Completely normal. The gap between the neck and body. NO overhang 4. • Fretboard overhang = 0. I didn't. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. 25,683. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. 050”, 0. . Feb 27, 2014 #25 monty said: Thanks Rick but a quick question. Some of the necks I see have a fretboard overhang, some don't. I have learned to adapt to 25. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. My other strat doesn't have this gap so I'm curious as. Staten Island NYC. Finally did some measuring last night and discovered that the neck pocket in the body is the correct depth (5/8"), but the distance between the FB. My Warmoth J pickguard is held in place just by the fretboard overhang, the control plate and the neck PU. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. Screw holes lined up pretty well. Personally I don't like the look of a fretboard overhang, so I'm a strictly 21 fret guy on Fenders. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. As I am. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. 22 medium jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. This Modele 10 from Jacques Favino is a standout piece in the gypsy-jazz guitar realm. You can use a Fender spec neck on it but unless it is a 22 fret with the fretboard overhang you will see a gap at the end between it and the neck pocket. Seems like the MIM (and MIJ) necks don't, but the MIA's do. New posts Search forums. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. Nov 17, 2011 #15 Well, frankly, I have never seen a full-offset neck like yours, but I was hoping I could help. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. 14. The neck was somehwere in the region of $250 if I recall, then I had a jet black ebony board and the fretboard overhang is squared off, as opposed to the usual Warmoth where it is rounded. Roasted maple neck with Rosewood fretboard- Modern C. 175 mm). #1. have a MIM strat body with a US highway one neck with 22 frets going the 1 humbucker route will i need to shave the pickguard so the neck will fit properly or what?? confusedThe American Professional II Jazz Bass sports smooth rolled fingerboard edges and a Super-Natural satin finish, ensuring that this is one J Bass that you won’t want to put down. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. 81" at the first fret , . If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. It's just a fretboard overhang so they could get that 22nd fret on. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. I don't think I've ever seen a straight fretboard overhang on a fender, certainly not a Strat, but the AllParts baritone neck isn't rounded at the fretboard overhang. What you might be talking about is how the fret edge is rounded, or the beveled edge, it. Aug 8, 2020. While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. Details are below so I don't bore you now. So you get a strat with 24 frets that you can actually reach (instead of that annoying fretboard overhang like Warmoth). Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. I do most teles I build with 22 frets. 21 inch Fretboard. . If I keep this kit I'll have to glue a scrap of "mahogany" under the area of the fretboard where it's just hanging out there. NO overhang 4. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. I like to see about . That’s exactly where I’d put the pickup. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. Our "720 Mod" lowers the floor of a standard neck pocket from . )The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Fretboard Overhang (mm) Perpendicular Fret. Hi there Just received an LPS carved top body and Warmoth neck and have a query about the fit. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. On the state of the Art, it may be ( and sort of looks like) someone may have just shaved that extra 1/4. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. 75” nut width. 375, at 24th fret is 2. . Any help with this would be most appreciated!Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. 2291 posts · Joined 2015. Frets: 21 Stainless Steel with a fretboard overhang. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. As a plus,. Close to Los Angeles, CA. May 8. number of strings = 4. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. I. Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. The neck has been reset to ensure. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. And I thought about providing a measurement from the end of the fretboard, but. Posted October 27, 2004. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. Includes vintage style tuners as shown. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. jazz Bass 74. 81" at the first fret , . No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. Of course, customer must verify neck pocket dimensions. 83" at the first fret , .